POOR OLD GONC
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POOR OLD GONC
The lawyer of Goncalo Amaral - Dr Cabrita - has renounced to represent him on all the procedures!
The Beast of Portimao has NO lawyer now!
The Beast of Portimao has NO lawyer now!
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christabel wrote:The lawyer of Goncalo Amaral - Dr Cabrita - has renounced to represent him on all the procedures!
The Beast of Portimao has NO lawyer now!
Now I wonder why???
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christabel, thank you for this news, your words are mine.
My friend, if you have or find more information about this, please, write it here. Thank you.
My friend, if you have or find more information about this, please, write it here. Thank you.
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Soon. Let it be soon. The news I mean. Or I won't sleep a wink.
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Pedro Silva wrote:christabel, thank you for this news, your words are mine.
My friend, if you have or find more information about this, please, write it here. Thank you.
by Sabot on Tue Jan 10 2012, 20:49
Soon. Let it be soon. The news I mean. Or I won't sleep a wink.
No worries both, as soon as/if, I get more I will post it.
christabel- Admin
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Poor old Gonc. Boo Hoo. He will be really worried. I hope.
God, I am turning into a really horrible person.
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Sabot, I agree with you, about being a bad person, know this, I don´t make fun with people´s problems, but, about gonçalo amaral, I make an exception.
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Pedro Silva wrote:Sabot, I agree with you, about being a bad person, know this, I don´t make fun with people´s problems, but, about gonçalo amaral, I make an exception.
Sadly, Gonc and a few others bring out the worst in me, Pedro.
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I understand you Sabot.
Pedro Silva- Grand Member
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christabel wrote:christabel wrote:The lawyer of Goncalo Amaral - Dr Cabrita - has renounced to represent him on all the procedures!
The Beast of Portimao has NO lawyer now!
Now I wonder why???
Hmmmm delaying the upcoming Trial??????
And....wasn't he supposed to be teaching Amaral?....Or have I my Lawyers confused?
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Sabot wrote:
Poor old Gonc. Boo Hoo. He will be really worried. I hope.
God, I am turning into a really horrible person.
Join the Club....
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Cat
It could be the 'teacher' but since Gonc was convicted of a crime, he has no need of a 'teacher'.
There are many reasons that are possibilities as to why Cabrita is no longer Gonc's lawyer.
A few generic reasons that are non specific to Gonc's circumstances that I can think of are
- to delay the trial (as stated above)
- non payment of past legal fees
- inability to pay new legal fees
- possible damage to reputation
- unwinnable case
And there will be more. So we will have to wait and see what turns up as to the reason why. We have no idea really.
It could be the 'teacher' but since Gonc was convicted of a crime, he has no need of a 'teacher'.
There are many reasons that are possibilities as to why Cabrita is no longer Gonc's lawyer.
A few generic reasons that are non specific to Gonc's circumstances that I can think of are
- to delay the trial (as stated above)
- non payment of past legal fees
- inability to pay new legal fees
- possible damage to reputation
- unwinnable case
And there will be more. So we will have to wait and see what turns up as to the reason why. We have no idea really.
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UPDATE
Oh dear,
It seems
"Amaral’s Lawyer expressly waived the power of attorney, refusing to represent him in the civil file", for the McCann's".
Oh dear,
It seems
"Amaral’s Lawyer expressly waived the power of attorney, refusing to represent him in the civil file", for the McCann's".
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http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/legal_aid/legal_aid_por_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/judicialatlascivil/html/pdf/national_law_la_por_en.pdf
http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/judicialatlascivil/html/pdf/national_law_la_por_en.pdf
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christabel wrote:UPDATE
Oh dear,
It seems
"Amaral’s Lawyer expressly waived the power of attorney, refusing to represent him in the civil file", for the McCann's".
Oh My. This is a disaster. Does Gonc's Lawyer think that Gonc can't win?
I would like to see The Pitch Forkers blame that one on The McCanns.
But I expect they will try.
Could Cabrita be IN IT as well?
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Hmm did we ever find out what happened over Gonc allegedly trying to claim Legal Aid?dianeh wrote:Cat
It could be the 'teacher' but since Gonc was convicted of a crime, he has no need of a 'teacher'.
There are many reasons that are possibilities as to why Cabrita is no longer Gonc's lawyer.
A few generic reasons that are non specific to Gonc's circumstances that I can think of are
- to delay the trial (as stated above)
- non payment of past legal fees
- inability to pay new legal fees
- possible damage to reputation
- unwinnable case
And there will be more. So we will have to wait and see what turns up as to the reason why. We have no idea really.
Catkins- Grand Member
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everything about his behaviour, with solid evidences, is against gonçalo amaral.
Pedro Silva- Grand Member
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From sans on Myths.
The following link may be helpful in understanding legal aid in Portugal:
http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/legal_ ... por_en.htm
The following link may be helpful in understanding legal aid in Portugal:
http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/legal_ ... por_en.htm
Catkins- Grand Member
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Catkins, because the link you wrote don´t allow access, here it is again:
http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/legal_aid/legal_aid_por_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/legal_aid/legal_aid_por_en.htm
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Thank you Pedro...
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Marcos has clarified some of the questions.
The decision of Cabrita to renounce to defend the Beast Goncalo Amaral (BGA) is very bad for the BGA. What we have here is the lawyer that has always defended him, refusing to do it more.
Cabrita wrote a letter to the courts saying that he renounced to all the powers of attorney from the BGA. This means that Cabrita is quitting immediately to be the lawyer of the BGA. The BGA is without a lawyer now. According with the article 39 of the Portuguese Civil Procedure Code, the BGA has 20 days to find another lawyer, otherwise the court will ask to the Portuguese Bar to give him one officially IF the BGA couldn't be notified, since if he is notified and does not appoint another lawyer, the trial will go on without a lawyer representing him,
I don't see any advantage to the BGA with the rejection from Cabrita. Exactly the opposite. First, concerning the question of this could be a plan to postpone the trials, remember that the BGA has already two trials booked for the same day (9 February) - Madeleine parents in Lisbon and ACED Report in Faro. He was already entitled to postpone one.
The action of Cabrita renouncing to BGA - please note it was Cabrita that rejected the BGA and not the opposite - it is really a very big smack in the face of the pig BGA. Usually, lawyers do not renounce to a client except in justified situations, like the client pursuing an immoral cause, because renouncing to defending someone is seen publicly as an outrage to the image of the client, being justified only in situations in which the lawyer wants to distance himself from the client. When a lawyer doesn't want to represent a client anymore, usually for reasons as lack of payment, he usually does not renounce to the power attorney; instead he asks the client to choose another lawyer and then the client sign another power attorney to the new lawyer replacing the former. Remember that Leonor Cipriano has done both actions: she has renounced to Joao Grade dos Santos and then has signed a new full power of attorney in Marcos favour.
So, Cabrita renouncing to the BGA is the same as saying "I do not support you anymore", and that's really very bad to the image of the BGA since Cabrita has always been his lawyer.
And, remember, Marcos will also benefit with that, since he now know's that Cabrita is also not going to be in the trial of Faro!
So, this is really very good news, and I don't know why you aren't celebrating!!!
The decision of Cabrita to renounce to defend the Beast Goncalo Amaral (BGA) is very bad for the BGA. What we have here is the lawyer that has always defended him, refusing to do it more.
Cabrita wrote a letter to the courts saying that he renounced to all the powers of attorney from the BGA. This means that Cabrita is quitting immediately to be the lawyer of the BGA. The BGA is without a lawyer now. According with the article 39 of the Portuguese Civil Procedure Code, the BGA has 20 days to find another lawyer, otherwise the court will ask to the Portuguese Bar to give him one officially IF the BGA couldn't be notified, since if he is notified and does not appoint another lawyer, the trial will go on without a lawyer representing him,
I don't see any advantage to the BGA with the rejection from Cabrita. Exactly the opposite. First, concerning the question of this could be a plan to postpone the trials, remember that the BGA has already two trials booked for the same day (9 February) - Madeleine parents in Lisbon and ACED Report in Faro. He was already entitled to postpone one.
The action of Cabrita renouncing to BGA - please note it was Cabrita that rejected the BGA and not the opposite - it is really a very big smack in the face of the pig BGA. Usually, lawyers do not renounce to a client except in justified situations, like the client pursuing an immoral cause, because renouncing to defending someone is seen publicly as an outrage to the image of the client, being justified only in situations in which the lawyer wants to distance himself from the client. When a lawyer doesn't want to represent a client anymore, usually for reasons as lack of payment, he usually does not renounce to the power attorney; instead he asks the client to choose another lawyer and then the client sign another power attorney to the new lawyer replacing the former. Remember that Leonor Cipriano has done both actions: she has renounced to Joao Grade dos Santos and then has signed a new full power of attorney in Marcos favour.
So, Cabrita renouncing to the BGA is the same as saying "I do not support you anymore", and that's really very bad to the image of the BGA since Cabrita has always been his lawyer.
And, remember, Marcos will also benefit with that, since he now know's that Cabrita is also not going to be in the trial of Faro!
So, this is really very good news, and I don't know why you aren't celebrating!!!
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I have been trying not to celebrate all day. Never kick a BGA when it's down because somebody already has. Probably Karma. And Karma kicks much harder than I can anyway.
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You welcome my friend.
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Thank Marcos Chris.....hmm as for celebrating....I'll save that for one I see piggy getting his ____ kicked well and truly by the Courts hopefully !!christabel wrote:Marcos has clarified some of the questions.
The decision of Cabrita to renounce to defend the Beast Goncalo Amaral (BGA) is very bad for the BGA. What we have here is the lawyer that has always defended him, refusing to do it more.
Cabrita wrote a letter to the courts saying that he renounced to all the powers of attorney from the BGA. This means that Cabrita is quitting immediately to be the lawyer of the BGA. The BGA is without a lawyer now. According with the article 39 of the Portuguese Civil Procedure Code, the BGA has 20 days to find another lawyer, otherwise the court will ask to the Portuguese Bar to give him one officially IF the BGA couldn't be notified, since if he is notified and does not appoint another lawyer, the trial will go on without a lawyer representing him,
I don't see any advantage to the BGA with the rejection from Cabrita. Exactly the opposite. First, concerning the question of this could be a plan to postpone the trials, remember that the BGA has already two trials booked for the same day (9 February) - Madeleine parents in Lisbon and ACED Report in Faro. He was already entitled to postpone one.
The action of Cabrita renouncing to BGA - please note it was Cabrita that rejected the BGA and not the opposite - it is really a very big smack in the face of the pig BGA. Usually, lawyers do not renounce to a client except in justified situations, like the client pursuing an immoral cause, because renouncing to defending someone is seen publicly as an outrage to the image of the client, being justified only in situations in which the lawyer wants to distance himself from the client. When a lawyer doesn't want to represent a client anymore, usually for reasons as lack of payment, he usually does not renounce to the power attorney; instead he asks the client to choose another lawyer and then the client sign another power attorney to the new lawyer replacing the former. Remember that Leonor Cipriano has done both actions: she has renounced to Joao Grade dos Santos and then has signed a new full power of attorney in Marcos favour.
So, Cabrita renouncing to the BGA is the same as saying "I do not support you anymore", and that's really very bad to the image of the BGA since Cabrita has always been his lawyer.
And, remember, Marcos will also benefit with that, since he now know's that Cabrita is also not going to be in the trial of Faro!
So, this is really very good news, and I don't know why you aren't celebrating!!!
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Catkins, your wise words are also mine:
"as for celebrating....I'll save that for one I see piggy getting his ____ kicked well and truly by the Courts hopefully!!!"
"as for celebrating....I'll save that for one I see piggy getting his ____ kicked well and truly by the Courts hopefully!!!"
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