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Post by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:23 am

From MM

We are now giving out the venue to all McCann-sceptics
(i.e. who disbelieve their abduction claim) who have indicated an
intention to attend our Cardiff meeting.

A room has been booked
for some time from 12.00noon onwards and The Madeleine Foundation will
once again be providing free lunch for all attendees, whether on time
or 'late'.

We anticipate that the core meeting will begin about
2pm and last till 5pm, once again beginning with round-the-table
introductions, one of the key points of this meeting being a
'get-to-know-you' exercise).

Debbie and myself both plan to attend, God willing, and
we shall provide an update on further correspondence received this week
from Carter-Ruck (which we cannot yet disclose) and also moves to shore
up the defences to our website.

Anyone wanting details of the meeting please e-mail me:

ajsbennett@btinternet.com

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:28 am

Tony Bennett adds

I’ve been away so am yet to catch up with all the correspondence between Carter-Ruck and our webmaster, hosters, servers etc.

I’d like to put three things on the record:

1.
No-one representing the McCanns has ever contacted The Madeleine
Foundation to raise any objection to the photographs on our website.
Our website went live on 20 October 2008.

2. If any letters were
sent to our hosters/servers by Carter-Ruck (or anyone else), these
letters were not brought to the attention of myself, our Chairman
Debbie Butler, nor any other member of The Madeleine Foundation until
after the website was temporarily pulled. Had we been notified we might
well have been able to take precautionary steps to ensure the website
did not go down. That is a situation we shall explore further in the
coming days.

3. We are very grateful to the owners of the
Missing Madeleine Forum for having carried news about The Madeleine
Foundation on their site, as indeed they still do. The owners have
supported the campaign for the truth about what really happened to
Madeleine McCann in many ways, not least in practical terms. Their
forum, like any internet forum, has trivial posts amongst the nuggets.
There’s a lot of excellent material on ‘Missing Madeleine’ once you
find your way around that site.

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Post by calcite51 Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:47 am

I noticed he didn't say he had a great holiday - I bet he didn't -- not with this issue hanging over his head. I would like to know what this further correspondence from CR says. If he's not willing to share, I think it is quite serious and TB will be asking for donations to support his defense.
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:57 am

Who exactly is he talking to with his God willing act?, has God been speaking with Tony?

Is this your latest line of defence bennett?

I think your about to find out God doesnt do persecution in any shape or form!!!

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Post by dianeh Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:20 am

Mulleena, it sounds like they might have a prior arrangement on that day, one they cant get out of. That is what "plan to attend, God willing" means, that there is a possibility that they wont be there.
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Post by Peaceful1 Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:48 am

Dont you just love the way he brings the MM forum into it all as well?
Its like saying, 'Hey, take me down and you have to take this lot down as well'...
Carry on Tony. Bennetts Update. 466476
More so, carry on MM forum...you'll be next.
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:10 am

His arrogance knows no bounds I find it hard to believe this is a 62 year old man at times.
The way he talks about shoring up defences and the MM supporting his ridiculous stories of what he peddles as the truth of what happened to Madeleine.
I can only applaud the way the McCanns have conducted themselves against this silly silly man. Who is more like one of Michael Bentines potty men who thinks he,s in charge of a platoon whereas the truth is he is running a loony brigade and its all going tits up at long last!!

http://www.thechestnut.com/potty.htm

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Post by Peaceful1 Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:47 pm

The man makes my skin crawl, and how anyone can even share the same breathing space as him is beyond me.
Still...their days are numbered, all of them.
Madeleine WILL be found and this group of misfits can crawl back in the gutter where they all belong.
Shame on the lot of them.
They have hounded a innocent couple constantly from the very first day.
I hope CR throw the bloody book at the lot of them!
They disgust me.
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Post by Jayelles Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:27 pm

So he's confirming that the CR Copyright letter is a forgery?

I agree that he's probably going to ask for money from those who turn up to this meeting. He'll be looking for donations and for attendees to do fund-raising for the legal fees he & Debbie will be required to pay as a result of their malicious harassment of the McCann family and attempts to thwart the search for a missing child.

If his followers think this is a worthy cause for their time, energy and childrens' inheritances then more fool them. Personally, I wouldn't give him a ha'penny of my hard-earned cash. The man is a loser and a goon (that's Burmese for tosspot).

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Post by Rosie Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:27 am

I just wonder what he meant by using the term "God willing"?

Does he mean they will be there if they have not arrested and charged with criminal charges? If he does, then his supporters should 1) not hold their breath and 2) not make any travel arrangements just yet!
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Post by Rosie Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:59 am

Forgot to say, that *CIVIL* charges for defamation and slander etc will shortly prove to be the very least of Bennett and Butler's worries. It is the *criminal* charges that should be worrying them, these are the ones that could land them up in prison or doing community service! Now wouldn't it be poetic justice if Bennett is ordered to wash down road signs as his community service? Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Personally if Bennett is found guitly of any criminal act with his vexatious record, I think he will be going to the big house! Bennetts Update. 217454 People need to be protected from that vile publicity seeking fantasist!

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Post by vee8 Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:45 am

I think the fact that he said 'God willing' means he is in fact very worried that he will NOT be attending! For obvious reasons! And if you are reading this bennett, don't fool yourself, C-R almost certainly know by now exactly where your hate meeting is taking place, and will be there to meet anyone who turns up with legal writs!
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Post by vee8 Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:07 am

Here's the latest,

Jean Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Stevo, any more updates on the Carter Ruck Saga, have they got a genuine grumble or is it all hot air ???

Stevo Says: Nothing new to report Jean. There are some developments behind the scenes and we shall inform everyone when it is ready for public consumption. I know people don’t like tantalising clues but all I can say is that we are forging some new and very significant alliances.



Reply by Tony Bennett (to Midas)

Thank you Midas for your questions and your thoughtfulness about what lies ahead.
On the question of personal safety, I am not sure that anyone who is publicly opposed to the McCanns’ version of what happened to Madeleine McCann can really feel 100% safe. For example, the original senior detective in the case, Goncalo Amaral, found his dog killed, a close associate of Robert Murat, Sergei Malinka, had his car burnt out with the words ‘FALA’ – ‘Talk’ – sprayed in red paint on the pavement next to the burnt-out wreckage, I myself received a death threat in Otober 2008 which was duly investigated by Essex Police, and when Goncalo Amaral said he was going to write up the story of his investigation in a book, the McCanns’ chief public relations adviser, Clarence Mitchell, warned in unfriendly terms: “Do you know what you are doing? You had better take care”.

Then again there is the atmosphere of threats, menace, hatred and sheet obscentity and vulgarity that one finds on those lurid forums and websites that support the McCanns – I won’t name them here, but most people who visit our website would be truly shocked to read some of their vile and all-too-graphic outpourings. As we have stated in a previous article, some of the perpetrators of this venomous abuse are also currently under investigation by Essex Police.

On the question of the worst case scenario as regards Carter-Ruck’s threatened libel proceedings, we might feel forced to seek expensive legal representation to match the McCanns’ big gun, Adam Tudor, we might lose any libel case, we might then have to pay the McCanns a lump-sum by way of compensation, plus Adam Tudor and Carter-Ruck’s costs, and all of that could effectively bankrupt both of us.

So there’s a lot at stake. And in such a ‘hothouse’ environment with Adam Tudor on a massive monthly retainer from the McCanns or one of their wealthy supporters, there is a strong temptation to pack it all in, close the website, abandon selling the booklet and cease distributimg the leaflet. We are not in the least inclined to give in but we must respect the legal advice we are getting and more will be said about all this in a few days’ time.

Several people have offered to start a legal defence fund, or similar type of appeal, and in this connection I am sure ‘bomaris’ formerly of 3As forum won’t mind me publicly thanking him for a generous donation made towards those possible legal costs.

Debbie and I do not want to start any legal expenses defence fund ourselves. However we do not object to others starting one. If one is set up, we would like the constitution of any defence fund to provide that, if the funds collected exceed what is necessary for legal defence, any surplus should be donated to ChildLine.

A group of three or four people would be all that is needed to set up a legal defence fund committee.

That’s all I want to say on the subject for now.

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Post by rosemary Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:28 am

Didn´t I forecast a Foundation Appeal would soon be set up??
It´s his only hope and he knows it.

Thanks for this Vee. It´s what I expected to see.

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Post by Peaceful1 Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:55 am

Oh dear!
Do a any of them realise, to take on CR will cost hundreds of thousands?
We are not talking raiding the piggy bank and just putting in loose change here, we are talking re mortgages, bank loans, asset sales..the lot.
But, if TB folllowers are prepared to keep digging further and further into their own pockets (remember TB has no money of his own!) then so be it.
Who are we to stop them? Bennetts Update. Lol
Carry on Tony. Your folowers will find out for themselves, but alas only when its too late.
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Post by dianeh Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:38 am

We are not in the least inclined to give in but we must respect the legal advice we are getting and more will be said about all this in a few days’ time.

This about says it all really. I wonder if the sheeples have realised that importance of this one sentence. Suffice to say that anyone considering giving their hard earned money over to Bennett, should get clarification of what this sentence actually means.

And worth saying again, the threats that Bennett has supposedly received, pale into comparison with the threats that the McCanns have received, with many of those coming from sites where Bennett and his cohorts regularly post. And those threats I suspect have not escaped the notice of the authorities.
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Post by Rosie Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:02 am

Oh dear Tony Bennett sounds a little upset, perhaps the magnitude of what he and the other vile creatures have done is hitting them?

But he is still doing it, so perhaps Carter-ruck are minded to take them all the way to court anyway. Look at what Stevo has been doing, he has been acting like an unhinged madman, making a terrible situation much worse.

Bennett said that he and Butler disassociated themselves from that extra page that appeared on the MF website spoofing Mike Gunnill and greatly effecting the man's ability to earn his living and then going further on the Missing Madeleine forum and naming a completely unconnected innocent man and publishing his photo and inferring he is a paedophile simply because he specialises in family portraits.
Does Tony Bennett and Debbie Butler disassociate themselves from this new forum that Stevo has put up? The one where you type in www.madeleinefoundation.org which is the MF address which Godaddy took down for copyright infringement and when you click on it you are redirected to a site almost identical in name to the Official Find Madeleine site, where the same annoying touting for money drop down box appears and using the same photo of Madeleine which is copyrighted, do Bennett and Butler disassociate themselves with this? Because let me tell you when this goes to court, a judge is going to take a very dim view of that, it is actually putting a middle finger up at the law in this country. Bennett and Butler must really want to end up bankrupt.
Nice to see that TB admits they will lose, even if they do fight it, because lose they will BIG TIME. Obviously they have been given legal advice which tells them they will lose everything and yet, the idiots still appear not to be listening!

I see TB is using emotional blackmail, he and Debbie are not asking people to set up a legal fund but in the next sentence he gives details of how to do so! Who the hell is TB trying to kid?

He wants your money and do not fall for the donations to Childline bit, he and Butler will have used it all up in "expenses" before that happens! I can see right through the pathetic odious little man!

Oh and I do love the bit where he whines about being insulted etc, just what has he and his supporters been doing to the McCanns for 2.5 years? To my knowledge no one has called Bennett a paedophile who abuses his own children but that is what he more or less looks to have inferred about Gerry McCann and his friend and I have the screenshot to prove it! Among gross slurs on their characters and accusing them or murdering their own daughter. And what about his supporters and the absolutely disgusting things they have said, written and actually done in real life? Sending child pron through the post to people's flatmates and obscene emails to people, remember the SCUBA email Bennett? How come you did nothing about that?
What Bennett and Butler and their supporters have done is criminal and they are still at it and have not taken a scrap of notice, well they get all they deserve, they asked for it.

As for others making donations as legal fees will no doubt go into hundreds of thousands of pounds, what are people going to donate? The roofs from over the heads of their families? Their entire life savings, their childrens inheritances? Because this is what it will take to fund Bennett and Butler, so any money being donated now is like a drop in the ocean and will be a complete and utter waste of money, money which even if they do not go to court, because they come to their senses and stop this vile evil persecution of innocent people, they will not get returned!

Also on one hand we have Stevo bragging about forging some interesting alliances and on the other we have TB in direct contrast.

Such utter liars.

Two words Stevo... Homeland Security!

I still maintain that all the above is the least of their worries, because it is criminal charges they should be worrying about! And he really should stop bandying that Essex police threat about too!

By the way what did the maidstone police ask Debbie Butler about? Anyone know?
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Post by dianeh Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:39 am

Well said Rosie.

Another thing the cohorts need to consider is that contrary to the BS they are being fed, it is not just about the MF site. This is only a part of it. It is the content that is libellous, and that content is spread far and wide on the internet. The MF website is simply one of a number of methods for distributing the libel. So it would be foolish to believe that it will stop there. Although it is entirely possible that if Bennett and Butler shut the website, hand over the booklet and cease their activities in this regard, it may stop. But if the continue, then it will go further and pull in a lot more people. And as Rosie says, this is just the civil proceedings we are talking about.

And then there are the criminal proceedings!!!!!!!
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Post by calcite51 Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:17 pm

I love the fact that Tony is worried.
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Post by Peaceful1 Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:09 pm

Calcite, so do I? Bennetts Update. Lol
Its like they are standing on a train track, they can see and hear the train coming, folk tell them repeatedly its coming, but they refuse to see it, hear it and believe it!
Oh well....
like I say
Carry on Tony & Co.
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Post by calcite51 Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:15 pm

Oh, and Tony - I know your buddy Amaral has recently purchased a new Jag and new designer clothes but wouldn't count on Mr. & Mrs. Amaral donating to your defense fund to help you and Debbieas Mrs. Amaral told Daily Express that their income has gone down 30% since Amaral left the PJ. One more thing Tony - Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. Lol Bennetts Update. Lol Bennetts Update. Lol Bennetts Update. Lol

Go, go Carter Ruck!!!


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Post by Peaceful1 Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:20 pm

calcite51 wrote:Oh, and Tony - I know your buddy Amaral has the most expensive of cars and new designer clothes but wouldn't count on Mr. & Mrs. Amaral donating to your help you and Debbie defense fund as Mrs. Amaral told Daily Express that their income has gone done 30% since Amaral left the PJ. One more thing Tony - Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 466476 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. 574656 Bennetts Update. Lol Bennetts Update. Lol Bennetts Update. Lol Bennetts Update. Lol

Go, go Carter Ruck!!!


Such a shame isnt it?
Poor old Bennett jumped on the bandwagon of a high profile case (AGAIN) and wrote his leaflets all based on Amarals lies.
Now we see Amaral & wife riding round in a expensive Jag, designer clothes, oh sunglasses too (LOL)...and poor ole Tony, wont be given a dime to lose his battle with Carter Ruck.
Butler...I say this to you now...enjoy your home while you still can and better start putting your name down for a council house now, the waiting lists are always mighty long.
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Post by vee8 Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:47 pm

I notice he is STILL whittering on about 'Certain people' being investigated by Essex police! My name is still on his houndation website as well. Hmmm. Well, for anyone reading this, I have personally spoken to Harlow Police, several times now, and I have been assured that that is another of bennett's LIES. He has, in fact, libeled me as well, and has done so in a letter to my MP. I wonder, should I also ask Carter Ruck to take action? Pity is, he won't have the means to pay me the compensation I would deservedly win! Never mind, I'll just have to be content to be a spectator in his downfall!
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Post by Peaceful1 Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:11 pm

Well Vee, He is good at hounding people, that's all he knows.
He's tried his hand at many things including being a lawyer Bennetts Update. Lol , a writer of leaflets etc...but he knows he scores top marks at hounding.
At last TB has found something he is good at.
Unfortunately for Tony, this isn't going to make him mega bucks or famous.
Enjoy the show Nigel, the curtains are about to be pulled.
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Post by Chicane Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:17 pm

Midas = Tony Bennett......so this is a talk in the mirror....

The insinuations against McCann........this is just pure evil....
Go away monster... Bennetts Update. 444872
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