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Post by Rosie Tue May 19, 2009 9:45 am



MADELEINE McCann’s parents have issued a new appeal after claims a Brit may be behind their young daughter’s disappearance.

Investigators working for Kate and Gerry McCann are probing claims the “Scarface” suspect they identified could come from the British Isles.

The ugly, pock-marked man was seen lurking near the family’s ­holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in the run-up to Maddie’s suspected abduction two years ago.

Last week a sketch of his face was seen by millions during a Cutting Edge TV reconstruction of events in May 2007.

According to a source, members of the public have put forward a name for the man which is now being checked out.

The McCanns, from Rothley, Leics, have issued a fresh plea for help in cracking the case, ­­­particularly from those who have offered information anonymously.

They said: “There has been a huge response to the reconstruction shown on May 7 and we thank you for all the information received.

“If you have contacted us through the anonymous message board and are happy to be contacted, please pass on your information to investigation@findmadeleine.com”

The “Scarface” sketch was put together following the accounts of a British tourist, who was out with her daughter four days before

Maddie, 3, vanished when she saw the suspect “acting suspiciously”.

She saw the man again outside the McCanns’ apartment the day before Maddie went missing. Two other witnesses also reported a man watching the flat.

Retired detectives Dave Edgar and Arthur Cowley, who are working for the McCanns, are convinced the man could help them.

A source said: “There are several leads which are being checked out. Names have been put forward.”

Meanwhile in another development last night it was revealed that Kate and Gerry are to sue former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral for defamation over claims he made about the couple in a book about the case.




http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/80985/Maddie-Hunt-on-for-Brit-suspect/
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Post by clairesy Tue May 19, 2009 11:01 am

read the last couple lines of this report(link below).I have read others like it tonight to.In tomorrows papers they report that detectives are checking out his alibi after being given a name???So they must know who he is then if they are checking he as an alibi???

here is the link.I think this is really really encouraging news,im excited about this new info.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/101963/Maddie-At-last-parents-find-some-comfort
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Post by jean Wed May 20, 2009 10:27 am

I don't want to be a damp squib, but didn't someone say that the McCanns had got phone calls from pranksters saying that they had information about Madeleine's whereabouts after the TV show. I'm just holding my breath and hoping that these leads are kosha.

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Post by Rosie Wed May 20, 2009 8:25 pm

I think this is very encouraging story and I do know of the name that may have been put forward for this man. I think this story portrays the McCanns as being cautiously optimistic, but on their guard over possible cranks/hoaxers.

A crank/hoaxer can give misleading and false information, but could they come up with a name?

If people are deliberately making hoax calls to the McCanns and giving them false hope, then this must be the cruelest thing I have heard of to date and words cannot express how beneath contempt I hold people who would do such a thing for their own sick enjoyment. I would not put this past a certain forum or blogs, it is just the low-life type of thing I have come to expect from the people posting on them.

There is something mentally wrong with these people, not only do they keep this hatred and vitriol up for two years, they spend their time dreaming up the most stupid and macabre ways to make it worse. They need therapy (from behind bars).

One post I saw which was posted on the 3 A's after the McCanns announced their intention to sue, was absolutely sick and disgusting and I am told the police now have a copy of that post and are tracing the person who wrote it.

We have from time to time to remove post from here for legal reasons, but never have we ever had one of our posters write such violent filth as that! But then the posters that post here are normal, nice decent people.
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Post by allformaddie Fri May 22, 2009 8:02 am

Hi Rosiepops
I am new here today, but felt I had to reply to your post.

I couldnt agree more with you about what was said over on the 3a's.
I hope that the police do track the person down and deal with them. It has to be said that there are not really any nice posters over there and the things they say are disgusting to say the least.

Wonder what they will have to say when Madeleine is found and returned to her parents, the same parents who have suffered immense pain since May 3rd 2007?

Ann x

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Post by Rosie Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:54 pm

allformaddie wrote:Hi Rosiepops
I am new here today, but felt I had to reply to your post.

I couldnt agree more with you about what was said over on the 3a's.
I hope that the police do track the person down and deal with them. It has to be said that there are not really any nice posters over there and the things they say are disgusting to say the least.

Wonder what they will have to say when Madeleine is found and returned to her parents, the same parents who have suffered immense pain since May 3rd 2007?

Ann x

Hi Ann,

I haven't a clue what makes people like that tick. I used to think they were just normal people with a different opinion and that is fine, but then all the macabre theories started to emerge and they evolved into the most horrendous and totally bizarre theories, really sick. What really puzzles me is that if people were normal, why would they stick around posting on a forum where such things were debated as the norm? I know that I couldn't, I would get angry and would not want to be associated with them. Scalping Madeleine, and Madeleine has no neck and the various sick and twisted threads and posts about sexual abuse of this poor child and then we learn that in fact the 3 A's has paedophiles posting there and sex offenders and is in fact supported by allowing advertisements for porn? A forum that is supposed to be dedicated to finding the truth out and also pretends to be Madeleine's voice? How sick is that?
So now I question everyone that continues to post there and wonder in the light of all the revelations that have occurred about the Mods and the owner of that site, it is just not a nice, or a healthy place to be!

After reading them all sticking up for an actual convicted paedophile, a child rapist, the number one question is, how can they do this if they really cared about children and Madeleine? The two are diametrically opposed!
I have long since thought that those on that website and other similar ones, would stick up for anyone if they thought it would damage the McCanns, but even I did not think that would take it as far as befriending a particularly violent predatory paedophile, convicted several times over for raping children and is actually wanted in question over involvement in the raping and murder of little Lesley Molseed when she was just 11 years old, apparently, Hewlett is wanted in question over her actual murder. Lesley was raped and stabbed 12 times and Hewlett was nearby when this happened too and was actually arrested at the time, are we supposed to keep on believing these coincidences? Along with all those *other coincidences* in PDL at that particular time?

All the Murat lookalikes?
A man very closely resembling how Hewlett may have looked at that time, seen lurking outside the McCanns apartment?
Many other predatory paedophiles in around PDL at that time?
Hewlett actually within the vicinity of PDL?

Far too many coincidences for me!

"Paedophile Raymond Hewlett is a suspect in the murder of schoolgirl Lesley Molseed.


The 11-year-old was raped and stabbed on the Yorkshire Moors in 1975.
Hewlett was arrested but Ronald Castree was convicted.
Claims that Hewlett was the killer were made at his trial.
Castree has now been given leave to appeal"




Raymond Hewlett is the man the 3 A's have been defending and befriending, even if he had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance, how can they even think of defending the foul mouthed convicted liar and violent paedophile?



SIMPLE, they will take anyone and any-thing's side against the McCanns and now we know for certain that paedophiles post among them there, we also know that paedophiles hunt in packs and provide each other with alibis and cover each others backs.
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Post by allformaddie Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:09 pm

Hi Rosiepops,
Just typed out a post then lost the lot :duh:

I cannot believe what the 3 a's get away with to be honest with you. I have my own name for them but wont post it lol

To even think of befriending a known paedophile says a lot to me about the people on that forum...........SCUM!

I get really upset when I read any of their posts, as we are talking about a little lost girl here, and the things they say and accuse Kate and Gerry of, in my opinion, is illegal.
I hope to see, one fine day, the 3a's and another forum shut down for their blatant attacks on the McCann family as a whole.

They have outright accused that couple of killing their daughter then disposing of her, and of also being swingers etc.

Now if they were/are swingers, what the hell does that have to do with the price of onions? There are probably a lot of couples that do these things, but it doesnt mean that they killed their child.

One of their mods is also a mod on a forum I used to be a member of, but I left due to the fact that if we/I didnt agree with what this person said, then we were hounded.
Myself and at least 12 others left and one of us formed a new forum, which is a total delight to be a part of.
Its very like this forum, as in the fact, that you are all very pro McCann and dont accuse her parents of any wrongdoings and basically support them, and that is what I am all about.

Gerry's brother lives no more than 10 minutes from my house, and my husband has met him. He said that he is a lovely guy and that his car was full of posters etc to do with Madeleine. He was convinced then, that the McCanns were innocent. He met him the same year that Madeleine went missing.

I will continue to support the McCanns the best I can, I will continue to make cards for Madeleine and send them. I have recently received an email from Gerry's brother-in-law thanking me for my support etc., so they do appreciate the fact that people like you and me are in forums, supporting them.

As far as the 3a's, Amarel etc are concerned, I hope to see them all being brought to task for their nasty vindictive accusations to the McCanns and for the horrible things they have said regarding Madeleine etc, I cannot wait for this to happen, to see them get what they all deserve.

To befriend a known paedo, well in my book, just shows just how low these people are. They are in my opinion the lowest of the low...trash.

feel better after saying that lol

ann xx

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Post by Catkins Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:44 am

allformaddie wrote:Hi Rosiepops,
Just typed out a post then lost the lot :duh:

I cannot believe what the 3 a's get away with to be honest with you. I have my own name for them but wont post it lol

To even think of befriending a known paedophile says a lot to me about the people on that forum...........SCUM!

I get really upset when I read any of their posts, as we are talking about a little lost girl here, and the things they say and accuse Kate and Gerry of, in my opinion, is illegal.
I hope to see, one fine day, the 3a's and another forum shut down for their blatant attacks on the McCann family as a whole.

They have outright accused that couple of killing their daughter then disposing of her, and of also being swingers etc.

Now if they were/are swingers, what the hell does that have to do with the price of onions? There are probably a lot of couples that do these things, but it doesnt mean that they killed their child.

One of their mods is also a mod on a forum I used to be a member of, but I left due to the fact that if we/I didnt agree with what this person said, then we were hounded.
Myself and at least 12 others left and one of us formed a new forum, which is a total delight to be a part of.
Its very like this forum, as in the fact, that you are all very pro McCann and dont accuse her parents of any wrongdoings and basically support them, and that is what I am all about.

Gerry's brother lives no more than 10 minutes from my house, and my husband has met him. He said that he is a lovely guy and that his car was full of posters etc to do with Madeleine. He was convinced then, that the McCanns were innocent. He met him the same year that Madeleine went missing.

I will continue to support the McCanns the best I can, I will continue to make cards for Madeleine and send them. I have recently received an email from Gerry's brother-in-law thanking me for my support etc., so they do appreciate the fact that people like you and me are in forums, supporting them.

As far as the 3a's, Amarel etc are concerned, I hope to see them all being brought to task for their nasty vindictive accusations to the McCanns and for the horrible things they have said regarding Madeleine etc, I cannot wait for this to happen, to see them get what they all deserve.

To befriend a known paedo, well in my book, just shows just how low these people are. They are in my opinion the lowest of the low...trash.

feel better after saying that lol

ann xx
FEEL BETTER ?... Laffin ........
They would be laughable if there wasn't a distraught family and a mising little girl involved. The 3 muppets are lower than slime in the sewers IMO.........they give pond scum a bad name.......
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Post by Rosie Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:47 am

Hi allformaddie,

I think you will find that all of us on here think the way you do. I cannot believe that somewhere like the 3 A's is allowed to exist on the internet.
Children very likely to type the name of Madeleine into a search engine, could so easily stumble across that hell hole cesspit snake pit and all the perverted morons that post on there, so how come despite that forum being reported, it is still n the net? I thought we were all supposed to be taking part and helping to clean the net up? Or is this just more mealy mouth political words, aimed to catch votes and that is all it amounts to? I do not give a twopenny damn which country that sewer full of paedophiles is hosted, whatever country it is in, that country should be informed and the stinking place investigated, the people responsible prosecuted and it taken off of the net.

It is too easy to keep passing the buck and someone has to do something about it now!

The thing is those people on there and the other foul places, they honestly cannot see how low they have sunk as human beings.

Who would want any of them anywhere near a child? Yet some of them are parents, grandparents etc and that is one hell of a very scary thought, before they criticise the McCanns for their parenting skills, perhaps they should take a look at their own very despicable selves and their own dreadful parenting skills.

Just over a week ago when they were waiting for the results for Amaral to come through, they spent the whole day on their computers, yet some of them had kiddies to tend, how can they do this? I know when I look after my grandchildren, if I can snatch 10 mins on the computer I think I am very lucky. yet there they all were all day on it, not only that some of them were admitting to chain smoking and drinking alcohol and then a few actually admitted they had to go off and collect children from school, after smoking and drinking all day! I hope they were not driving! Some parents they are! Yet they criticise the McCanns for being less that a 100 yards and less than one minute away while checking on their children, I bet the McCanns checked on their sleeping children more than that lot did all day, when their children were awake and likely to get into trouble!

I am not surprised t learn about Gerry, I have read people saying they have met him either before or after Madeleine disappeared and they all say what a lovely, kind warm guy he is, but because he does not come across like this on the TV, he gets pre judged and slaughtered. Odd thing is that he cannot win, if he smiles he is accused of sneering and laughing while his daughter is missing and if he does not smile he is accused of being cold and controlling.

There is one awful woman called Viv, AKA Vile, and vile by name and vile by nature she certainly is, she has this hate blog and on it she has openly stated that the McCanns murdered their daughter, Gerry and David Payne abused her, they sold her for sexual purposes and when she was of no further use and because she was due to start school, they murdered her! Can you believe the warped and twisted minds that thought that one up? Vile and her paedophile mate ecolab better known as Ecolilab. Just foul vile people and that awful woman has grandchildren too!
I hope the mothers of those children keep them away from her!

I just hope that one day someone puts Vile and her mate in the bin where they belong, they are plebs and the pits, fould, awful nasty spiteful sewer rats. They post on the 3 A's too, how surprising that they should feel at home on there - not.vileingarbage
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Post by allformaddie Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:10 am

Hi Rosiepops
awful nasty spiteful sewer rats. lol Now I think thats an insult to the sewer rats, dont you? Laffin

Sometimes I get upset reading the stuff they write over there, and feel that there must be something that can be done to get rid of them.
These people should not be allowed to use the internet, never mind spread their muck on it.

The person I was talking about goes by several different names, she obviously thinks that everyone else is daft and dont know that its her.

She also writes on the candle room forum, and signs some of the candles by the name of her dog.....................well what a clever little dog she has, that can both read and write............stupid old mare that she is mental

I am hoping that Kate and Gerry know about the 3 a's, and am sure that they probably do, the problem would be finding the sources of some of the particularly nasty posts and dealing with them.

I cannot wait for Madeleine to be found, as when it does happen I will gladly be signing into this persons forum and telling them all exactly what I think of ones who have turned against the McCanns.

I look at Kate and see someone who is suffering, a mother who cannot find her child, and I couldnt possibly look at her or Gerry any other way.

Like yourself, I come on when I have the time, and I am managing to do this post, as my grandson is not home from school as yet. No doubt I will have to go and sit in the back garden when he does come home,..........not complaining though. thumbsup2

Anyway Rosiepops its nice talking to you and I will be back on later.
Its always good to meet people who feel the way I do about Madeleine and her family.

ann xxx

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Post by Royal Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:33 pm

Picking up on old stories I notice this report of a British suspect seems to have evaporated, so could anybody tell me the outcome of this inquiry, was this 'suspect' actually found and questioned or was it just another 'damp squib'? The British holiday makers reported sighting of this 'pock marked, scar faced' man loitering around the Mccans apartment just prior to Madeleines disappearance seemed so convincing?
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Post by Royal Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:30 am

Time passes by with no fresh news or sightings of Madeleine, so what more can be said and done in this tragic situation that hasn't already been said and done? Millions of words have been printed and spoken, some nice, some not so nice but still the search goes on. Kate and Gerry have vowed never to give up looking for dear little Madeleine, how can they, but time eventually tells and they are now forced into accepting the inevitable, that perhaps it's now time to scale down their search. They realize there is no more they can possibly do, they have done and tried everything humanly possible to find their child, but at the same time now also understand that sooner or later they have to very reluctantly face up to the way things are and that there is nothing more they can do. That does not mean giving up their hopes and prayers entirely and that sooner or later Madeleine 'will' be found. But how much more pain and suffering could they endure before finally even their hopes begin to fade and be finally replaced with beautiful thoughts and memories of what could and should have been!
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Post by Pedro Silva Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:46 am

Royal, forgive me for being so direct, but, I disagree with you.

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Post by bluj1515 Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:21 am

Finding Madeleine is clearly the first priority.
But Amaral being punished for his crimes is next, and that's slowly coming to fruition.
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Post by AlexG Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:01 am

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Post by Pedro Silva Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:25 am

Alex, forgive me, but, I disagree with you the same way as I disagree with Royal.

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Post by Pedro Silva Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:06 am

I´m not going to discuss with you, you have your opinion, I have mine, end of discussion.

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Post by Rosie Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:47 am

I do not believe everything that could be done has been done, for a start and this is a biggie, Scotland Yard hasn't been deployed and Scotland yard has the technology that could be used to sift through the masses of information that has not yet been looked at properly. It is called HOLMES. Quite frankly, I think this is an absolute travesty that Scotland Yard has not been used. Madeleine is British citizen and a minor and this country is doing nothing to help find her, so this is something that could be done immediately.
I am also positive that Kate and Gerry, would not see things this way, they do not believe that Madeleine is dead and for what it is worth, neither do I.

There are plenty of reasons to think that Madeleine is not dead but is being kept prisoner somewhere, for a start, her body has not been found and I feel sure it would have been by now if she had died.

While there is nothing to suggest that she has come to harm, then I will believe she is alive and I will feel obliged to support her parents and stay positive for them, if they can stay positive under such adversity, from the likes of Bennett and Amaral etc, then I am sure I can.

I can't give up, that child may be somewhere waiting, nope, cant and will not give up while there is the slightest chance of this.

There is a limit to how much the McCanns and there investigators can do, this is because not having jurisdiction in Portugal prevents them from doing things, this is why we need Scotland Yard and for the British government to liaise with the Portuguese government, to give a team of top detectives from Scotland Yard jurisdiction in Portugal, for this case to be reopened and for the PJ to work with detectives from Scotland Yard and for Scotland Yard to be in charge of the investigation, when this is done, this case will start moving again, because from little details, I firmly believe that the big lead has been missed.

Also much is happening a the moment, some of the McCanns biggest detractors have been finished, these people have been frustrating the search for Madeleine by making others think that she has died and that her parents did it, so no point in looking, or reporting anything.

I also agree with Bluj, it is of vital importance that Amaral is made to pay for his appalling investigation, I believe that this man knows something, I think he may know or suspect who took Madeleine and he must be questioned, if necessary arrested and made to talk (legally) about what he knows.

There is still so much to do in this investigation, work that shuld have been done in the beginning still has not been done!
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Post by Rosie Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:50 am

I also forgot to add, that there are top detectives experienced in abduction cases that think there is still masses that can be done to help find Madeleine and they think this is very much a solvable case and they too want Scotland Yard brought in.
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Post by calcite51 Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:19 am

It would be wonderful if Scotland Yard got involved and I agree they would have the resources required to find Madeleine
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Post by clairesy Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:10 am

but what can be done to solve the case that haven't be tried so far ?

hi alex and alroy

I believe that a lot can be done.The frustration and waiting,the no news and the no leads comes from the silence of those who knows where madeleine is or who might have taken her.

I believe that everyone as a breaking point,therefore i also believe that if the mccanns finally give up and stop putting pressure and pushing Madeleine's plight into the worlds media then any pressure that could bring someone to their breaking point will have been released.....resulting in any person/s who hold that vital price of information also gradually feeling less pressure to talk.

At the moment i believe someone out there is in a desperate situation.One which maybe eats them inside everyday.Their last thought at night and their first though of a morning is probably the same as kate and gerrys.MADELEINE.

One day(soon hopefully) i believe that person will reach their reach breaking point.I dont know when,i don't know how but i believe they will.When they do madeleine will be found and this nightmare can finally be over for everyone involved.

The human mind is a complicated thing...in any given situation a person can battle with their emotions and thoughts for a long long time.If they don't have the right pressure or encouragement to talk and share them thoughts then they will continue to battle with them for as long as they can.Eating away at them day in day out.

In this case i think the pressure from the investigation continuing(and not dying out) is a good thing.It will one day bring someone forth with information that they can longer keep to themselves.
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Post by Rosie Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:56 pm

I think it is odd that we had this flurry of activity with CEOPS and the unprecedented success with their viral video campaign and they said they had a large number of calls coming in as a result of this and then silence. I know something like this has happened before, but this time it really does feel different, (well it does for me anyway). I think that at long last this silence in ominous, ominous for those that took Madeleine and some people like Amaral know it and are beginning to panic, I think the breakthrough is near, something will be happening very soon, very very soon and Amaral is one very worried man!
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Post by Pedro Silva Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:57 pm

I agree with you my friends Rosiepops, Calcite, Clairesy.

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