a pitchforker who can see past their own nose re Gonzo

by RealRhodes Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:10 am

Here's a post from one of them who talks some sense

StinkySardine

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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:01 pm
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Location: West Coast, but Jillycameearly's gone

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Why
would a meeting with Gonçalo Amaral ‘contribute to find the truth’?
What truth could be found in a meeting that could not have been found
through thousands of hours of work by worthy professionals, forensic
scientists and labs with all their criminal investigation paraphernalia?

What work? What has this forum actually made to find the truth?

Did we uncover new evidence?

Did we run lab tests?

Did we interview witnesses?

Did we hire private detectives?

Did
we dig up the dirt, or dams looking for a body. Is there anybody here
who – at the very least – who actually helped on with the searches on
the earlier days of this case?

We dwelled and discussed behind
our aliases and computers (and yes, bickered and fought and insulted
each other, but that’s really part of the game, IMO) about a subject.
We followed news, people, WUMs and came up with wild conspiracy
theories. Also some more plausible theories.

But from there to
actually believing we did some ‘work’ to find the truth or actually
helped in the investigation is a logical step that cannot be taken.

A little humbleness would probably be most welcome.

The
fact that (apparently) a seasoned police officer, a criminal
investigator at the top of his game actually comes here and thanks
everybody for their ‘work’ is – for me – reason enough to be very
suspicious.

This case (Madelein's disappearance) stinks. It is
weird and the whole stinking story is very badly told (or perhaps very
badly investigated, I don’t know).

But to assume that any of us amateurs here actually ‘helped’ on anything of the investigation is being naïf at the very least.

That
the 3As has actually helped to keep some awareness on the case, well
OK, granted. I’m not really sure of the impacts on the ‘outside world’
of this forum.

But that’s it. Not for a glimpse of a second
anything here ‘helped’ to advance the investigation. Nothing here came
closer to ‘discovering the truth’. There was no ‘work’ in terms of the
investigation.

We don’t even have full access to the complete
files! Last time I checked, a couple of thousands of pages have not
been made public.

I’m sorry some of you may find these views
offensive. When shutting out different opinions, you’re actually doing
exactly the same thing you claim and accuse the written press of doing:
being biased and one-sided. And in my view that’s sad.

Cheers
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by Guest Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:39 am

Hi RealRhodes...I read this too on the 3A's. They have now locked the thread started by the so called Amaral. The reason given was many posters were putting Amaral off posting again because they questioned whether it was him. StinkySardine made several very good posts...plus asked several valid questions.
One poster (blossom) even dared to argue back with the Portuguese know it all Queen....Claudia79. It seems a few posters on the 3A's have Claudia sussed out at last.

by RealRhodes Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:42 am

that whole site is nothing but huge egos and master manipulators at work.

Why they think it's wrong to question if it IS Gonzo or not, but it's OK to slag off the parents and family of a real live, missing kid, not some charachter on an internet forum, is totally beyond me tbh.

Despicable lowlifes the lot of them and the sooner it ends the better.

by RealRhodes Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:05 am

and another one in the question for goncalo thread

StinkySardine

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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:54 pm
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I would like to ask Gonçalo Amaral another couple of questions:

1.
You seem pretty much convinced you are right (obviously). Don't you
even entertain the possibility that, given that you left so early in
the investigation, your colleagues collected enough information to
contradict your initial convictions?

2. Depending on the
previous one: did you have full access to the full contents of the file
even though you were removed from the case early on?

3. Are you,
in fact stating, through actions and through your book (which I have
not read), that your PJ colleagues are incompetent? And prosecutors?
And instruction judge?

4. To your knowledge, is anyone on the PJ looking at the case?

Thank you again. I can translate this if necessary.
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by Guest Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:33 am

Amaral wil make another post soon as the viewing figures are starting to wane again Laffin

And a few are asking too many questions Laughing

by dianeh Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:35 am

Was the post made in good English, because I believe Amoral's English is not very good? And we all know that you cannot get a good translation from Portuguese to English via Babel (or the like).

So what was the post like? If in good English, does his wife speak and write fluently in English. If not, then why would a non English speaker bother to get a good translation of a post done, so that they can post on something like the 3A's. ALso, unless his wife is fluent, how would they even know what exactly is going on in the 3A's land.