Amaral's Appeal Hearing Gets Under way!

From what I hear of amaral Pedro, is that he has no respect for anything or anybody. He cheats on his wife, he drives drunk with his child in his car, he couldnt be bothered to move away from his beer to search for Madeleine on the night she went missing and days that followed.
That man has no respect at all.

Peaceful1 wrote:From what I hear of amaral Pedro, is that he has no respect for anything or anybody. He cheats on his wife, he drives drunk with his child in his car, he couldnt be bothered to move away from his beer to search for Madeleine on the night she went missing and days that followed.
That man has no respect at all.

Totally agree with you.........

You´re right my friend Peaceful1, I agree with you.

At last.....the book's arrived! I was getting just a bit worried because it took so long to arrive but it was obviously just the bad weather and the backlog which caused the delay.

I'm now looking forward to getting up to speed by reading your account of the Investigation and getting an even clearer idea of the twisting of facts which has gone into the harassment Kate and Gerry have put up with.

Thank you to all contributors, by the way. Not an easy task, but a very worthwhile one, to put the record straight in the face of all the leaks and lies.

just thinking out loud here ,you know if kate and gerry win this case with amaral
could they demand the files to be reopened?after all if his book is based on the files and they prove they damaged the search for madeleine does that mean the files /investigation damaged the search for madeleine and can be reopened?
we know the pj didnt want to carry on with the case ,
maybe the british [scotland yard ]could be brought in to investigate it ,all i know is no other country can take over a case so maybe going to court they could change this ??


i wonder if this was the plan from katye and gerry they needed to get him in to court for this ??
i may have lost the plot but we will have to wait and see

The book is based on the files to the extent that it contains bit and pieces that, glued together by Amaral's views and 'flow of writing' make look the McCanns guilty. The book is full of lies, even in those parts that seem to come from the files. Remember what Amaral's witenesses said: the book is an outburst (Luis Neves), the book is an autobiography (Moita Flores). Also, the guy from Valentim de Carvalho (who I now think to be Luis Froes) says he wrote the book because he was irritated, he had been soiled. Do any of these evaluations give you or anybody else the confidence to be reading an unbiased book, based on the files, even based on that part of the files that he could know, by the date he left PJ?

How could we expect a reopening of the 'investigation' and I'm sorry to say, which 'investigation' would we get if we know, for instance, that the crime scene was sealed weeks after the abduction, that other people have been living at the apartment in the meantime, and as José Anes confirms, without a correct preservation and collection of indices an investigation is doomed? On the other hand, José Anes and Ricardo Paiva (yes!) tell us so, changing the investigator the investigation may change, that could give us some hope...

As to be reopened, it will always be under PJ's authority, forget any other 'wishes'. Nobody ever would even put any other hypothesis. It is a question of sovereignity, and that's indisputable and undesirable for everybody.

I agree with you re the reopening of the investigation. My point is exactly that: which 'investigation' would we get if it is reopened? This one that has been shelved is about charging the McCanns for whatever happened and did not happen to Madeleine. And the other friends too, as accomplices.

I most certainly would like to see him brought to justice! Oh yes, I would! But unless 'new proof' is provided, he can't be touched.

As to the other case, it is a different story, there were 'new proofs' (the pictures) that allowed for a new process, not a reopening of the old one.

And by the way. Until the appeal(s) are finished, he is not 'convicted' of anything, he does not have to serve his (suspended) sentence, he doesn't have a criminal record. That cannot be invoked in any charge or trial. That's why, for instance, that could not be invoked in this injunction and cannot be invoked in the libel trial.

So if he is not stupid, then there is only one explanation for his Clueseau like behave during the investigation.

I agree with you Rosiepops, good point Dianeh.

dianeh wrote:So if he is not stupid, then there is only one explanation for his Clueseau like behave during the investigation.

One word 'deliberate'!

And one other thing: Amaral's conclusion that the McCanns are guilty of concealing Madeleine's body and all the other rubbish IS in the files. Tavares de Almeida wrote it. And it was even signed by the prosecutor, Magalhães e Menezes. It was however dismissed by the judge, Frias. And certainly not corroborated by the Prosecutor's final report.

So 'being in the files' is by no means synonym of true, conclusive or unbiased. Or law abiding for that matter.

The only one who is guilty here is GA.

maria wrote:And one other thing: Amaral's conclusion that the McCanns are guilty of concealing Madeleine's body and all the other rubbish IS in the files. Tavares de Almeida wrote it. And it was even signed by the prosecutor, Magalhães e Menezes. It was however dismissed by the judge, Frias. And certainly not corroborated by the Prosecutor's final report.

So 'being in the files' is by no means synonym of true, conclusive or unbiased. Or law abiding for that matter.

Hi All,

Hope everyone's well and sorry for not being around, much.

Another point that's interesting about Madeleine's body being hidden, is that Amaral, in this respect, is frequently misquoted. He actually didn't say that he thought Gerry had buried Madeleine's body. Stealing the proper detective work of Mark Harrison in ruling out burial (without acknowledgment, of course) he wove that in to some sinister narrative about his dog being nobbled by sinister Team McCann types, him finding it difficult to dig a hole to bury the dog's corpse and it coming to him in a flash how much 'easier' it would be to 'hide' a body. Of course, there's nothing easier than casually slipping the body of your own, beloved daughter somewhere where it won't be found. I reckon he'd have been better sticking to the 'burial' version. It was faintly less risible. But only faintly.

Hi HB

Maybe 'flash' is another word for dream. Dreams seem to be a prime source of evidence in this particular PJ investigation.