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more bullshit from birch
My friends, I received this through google alert:
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/aa---videos---sociedade/maddie-murat-algarve-sul-africano-tvi24/1359663-5795.html
translation:
Businessman says he knows where is buried the girl disappeared in Praia da Luz, despite authorities have removed all suspicions.
during two weeks, the house of murat, when Maddie disappeared, was under surveillance day and night, by a team led by an entrepreneur from real estate,
according Correio da Manhã, this south-african man travelled to Praia da Luz, to search for the body of the child, installed in the Ocean Club to better control the entrances and departures,
waited for the moment Murat´s villa was empty, invaded private property, for at least four times,
always during dawn, beyond the gate and walls, walked freely with two employees and a geo-radar, the device allows to detect changes and objects in the sub-soil,
accused positive or something is buried in the backyard 60 cm deep,
in the interview at the newspaper, the entrepreneur assures deeply convinced that is the body, but several
specialists contacted by tvi, assures that in a 1st stage, the device cannot allow conclusions only
deductions, which what could look a human bone could be a stick, iron or any other object.
With fear of being accused with the crime of house breach, the entrepreneur only contacted PJ and Scotland Yard, after returned to South-Africa.
TVI knows that the investigation team of Oporto reviewing the process, gives no credibility to these informations, also because PJ have conducted exhaustive searches and excavations in the ground
surrounding the house of murat, also with a geo-radar and with expertise technicians related with the University of Aveiro and nothing was found.
Through his lawyer, Robert asks to be left in peace, but, if true, the south-african which entered without consent of the owner of the house,
murat´s mother of 80, is now afraid of being alone in the house.
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/aa---videos---sociedade/maddie-murat-algarve-sul-africano-tvi24/1359663-5795.html
translation:
Businessman says he knows where is buried the girl disappeared in Praia da Luz, despite authorities have removed all suspicions.
during two weeks, the house of murat, when Maddie disappeared, was under surveillance day and night, by a team led by an entrepreneur from real estate,
according Correio da Manhã, this south-african man travelled to Praia da Luz, to search for the body of the child, installed in the Ocean Club to better control the entrances and departures,
waited for the moment Murat´s villa was empty, invaded private property, for at least four times,
always during dawn, beyond the gate and walls, walked freely with two employees and a geo-radar, the device allows to detect changes and objects in the sub-soil,
accused positive or something is buried in the backyard 60 cm deep,
in the interview at the newspaper, the entrepreneur assures deeply convinced that is the body, but several
specialists contacted by tvi, assures that in a 1st stage, the device cannot allow conclusions only
deductions, which what could look a human bone could be a stick, iron or any other object.
With fear of being accused with the crime of house breach, the entrepreneur only contacted PJ and Scotland Yard, after returned to South-Africa.
TVI knows that the investigation team of Oporto reviewing the process, gives no credibility to these informations, also because PJ have conducted exhaustive searches and excavations in the ground
surrounding the house of murat, also with a geo-radar and with expertise technicians related with the University of Aveiro and nothing was found.
Through his lawyer, Robert asks to be left in peace, but, if true, the south-african which entered without consent of the owner of the house,
murat´s mother of 80, is now afraid of being alone in the house.
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My friends, I received this through google alert:
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/robert-murat-fala-em-loucura-e-estupidez
translation:
British react to the South African research
Robert Murat speaks of "madness and stupidity"
Asked Thursday afternoon about the seatches in his backyard, revealed in the Thursday edition of the 'Morning Post', Robert Murat found the whole situation "a foolish and stupid."
"That makes no sense," said the Briton, who came under investigation by authorities at the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Referring to the search that the South African businessman Stephen Birch held in the backyard of his house in the village of Luz, Murat said that "you can take everything to the Judicial Police, which is who should investigate, and give you all the information" .
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I agree with Murat, if it was with me I would be very angry with this moron birch.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/robert-murat-fala-em-loucura-e-estupidez
translation:
British react to the South African research
Robert Murat speaks of "madness and stupidity"
Asked Thursday afternoon about the seatches in his backyard, revealed in the Thursday edition of the 'Morning Post', Robert Murat found the whole situation "a foolish and stupid."
"That makes no sense," said the Briton, who came under investigation by authorities at the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Referring to the search that the South African businessman Stephen Birch held in the backyard of his house in the village of Luz, Murat said that "you can take everything to the Judicial Police, which is who should investigate, and give you all the information" .
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I agree with Murat, if it was with me I would be very angry with this moron birch.
Pedro Silva- Grand Member
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in the middle of all this" birch madness and stupidity",
the only good thing is that keeps Madeleine´s name / face in worldwide people´s minds, which is good.
the only good thing is that keeps Madeleine´s name / face in worldwide people´s minds, which is good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbCmxmDcArM&feature=youtu.be
My friends, here it is the translation:
Julia Pinheiro (JP): the news is from Correio da Manhã (CDM), which claims that a South-african entrepeneur believes that the body of Maddie McCann, could be at Murat´s villa backyard, this South-african, I think he is engineer, claims that he conducted an investigation with equipment attached to a special radar and the results discovered were presented to PJ , so gonçalo amaral (GA) what do you think about this?
GA: look, this news have big mistakes, 1) that I have given an interview to CDM, not true, I have not told this, I appreciate that CDM correct this. I can tell you that I tried to speak , during morning, with CDM editor, but, I couldn´t, until a reporter, let´s move to other questions, you Júlia told that he is an engineer, these are the titles, it is an investigator, he is an engineer, but graduated in investigator, to be an investigator, it´s not enough to have a graduation in the area of engineering, it is like this: an investigator creates himself and works
JP: not true, you have not given an interview, but, oh gonçalo, do you think or not that is possible, when you investigated
GA: everything is possible, let´s see if a body exists or no body, but that is another discussion, now it is like this: this news suggests, that this technique used, it is only abroad, it´s a lie, it is a lie because in Portugal this has been used and it also lie that in this concrete case , such never happened, I recall to the journalists that there are images of technicians doing this, and are from the Aveiro university, department of mines and geology, we discovered that, it is well documented, below this house, traces of a roman village, a terrain with some value,
JP: and you have found nothing.
GA: nothing. So, now saying that a body is there, whether bones or sticks or
JP: could it be bobi (pet dog), from mr….
GA: I don´t know, to claim immediately that it was in that night a body placed there,
JP: it is normal that when a dog or cat dies to be placed in…
GA: let´s not speculate, I, that have accompanied the case, if something there had been there, for example, the body of this little girl, being existed, could only be happened after that search, after what was being done there, a planned search, and all the areas, places, of the terrain, it is impossible , and by the way, I think that this gentleman, a few months ago, told to be careful, contacted by mail, because someone also south-african, this theory that a body is there, is also from a few mediums, some vibrations, so, alerting for these situations, now, because PJ of Porto is connecting all loose ends, I don´t know how they are connecting all loose ends, it is expected to return there. Let me tell you
JP: it doesn´t exist. According also CDM, that south-african thinks that Robert Murat has nothing to do with it
GA: nobody have, neither Robert Murat, nor the family, no one, but this gentleman, the device he used seems to have been used less time before doing this, people from Aveiro university arrived there, highly qualified people in this area, they do this during all their life.
JP: let me talk with António Pinto Pereira (APP).
APP: Oh Júlia, this is so relevant this news as the tenth investigation about the Camarate case, 32 years later of the death of the prime-minister, these are sordid issues, which come permanently at the surface, I don´t know if the purpose is to sell newspapers, or whatever it is, this not a news, although a point, for me, I don´t understand nothing of it…
My friends, here it is the translation:
Julia Pinheiro (JP): the news is from Correio da Manhã (CDM), which claims that a South-african entrepeneur believes that the body of Maddie McCann, could be at Murat´s villa backyard, this South-african, I think he is engineer, claims that he conducted an investigation with equipment attached to a special radar and the results discovered were presented to PJ , so gonçalo amaral (GA) what do you think about this?
GA: look, this news have big mistakes, 1) that I have given an interview to CDM, not true, I have not told this, I appreciate that CDM correct this. I can tell you that I tried to speak , during morning, with CDM editor, but, I couldn´t, until a reporter, let´s move to other questions, you Júlia told that he is an engineer, these are the titles, it is an investigator, he is an engineer, but graduated in investigator, to be an investigator, it´s not enough to have a graduation in the area of engineering, it is like this: an investigator creates himself and works
JP: not true, you have not given an interview, but, oh gonçalo, do you think or not that is possible, when you investigated
GA: everything is possible, let´s see if a body exists or no body, but that is another discussion, now it is like this: this news suggests, that this technique used, it is only abroad, it´s a lie, it is a lie because in Portugal this has been used and it also lie that in this concrete case , such never happened, I recall to the journalists that there are images of technicians doing this, and are from the Aveiro university, department of mines and geology, we discovered that, it is well documented, below this house, traces of a roman village, a terrain with some value,
JP: and you have found nothing.
GA: nothing. So, now saying that a body is there, whether bones or sticks or
JP: could it be bobi (pet dog), from mr….
GA: I don´t know, to claim immediately that it was in that night a body placed there,
JP: it is normal that when a dog or cat dies to be placed in…
GA: let´s not speculate, I, that have accompanied the case, if something there had been there, for example, the body of this little girl, being existed, could only be happened after that search, after what was being done there, a planned search, and all the areas, places, of the terrain, it is impossible , and by the way, I think that this gentleman, a few months ago, told to be careful, contacted by mail, because someone also south-african, this theory that a body is there, is also from a few mediums, some vibrations, so, alerting for these situations, now, because PJ of Porto is connecting all loose ends, I don´t know how they are connecting all loose ends, it is expected to return there. Let me tell you
JP: it doesn´t exist. According also CDM, that south-african thinks that Robert Murat has nothing to do with it
GA: nobody have, neither Robert Murat, nor the family, no one, but this gentleman, the device he used seems to have been used less time before doing this, people from Aveiro university arrived there, highly qualified people in this area, they do this during all their life.
JP: let me talk with António Pinto Pereira (APP).
APP: Oh Júlia, this is so relevant this news as the tenth investigation about the Camarate case, 32 years later of the death of the prime-minister, these are sordid issues, which come permanently at the surface, I don´t know if the purpose is to sell newspapers, or whatever it is, this not a news, although a point, for me, I don´t understand nothing of it…
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birch´s words are a bit farfetched, very unlikely to have happened, in my opinion.
Pedro Silva- Grand Member
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My friends, this was taken from The Daily Star newspaper:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/260768/-Madeleine-McCann-grave-yards-from-her-hols-flat-/
"Kate and Gerry do not believe there is anything credible in what he is saying. It seems to be complete lies. If there was any truth in it, police would be out there digging up the area looking for possible remains.
A source close to the McCanns"
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even The Daily Star considers birch´s ridiculous theories a hoax.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/260768/-Madeleine-McCann-grave-yards-from-her-hols-flat-/
"Kate and Gerry do not believe there is anything credible in what he is saying. It seems to be complete lies. If there was any truth in it, police would be out there digging up the area looking for possible remains.
A source close to the McCanns"
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even The Daily Star considers birch´s ridiculous theories a hoax.
Pedro Silva- Grand Member
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Re: more bullshit from birch
I´m not going to give more antenna time to birch, he is not important.
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Pedro, it probably is all BS.
But you can rest assured, if this Birch has given the scan details to SY, they will look at it in detail to see if he is correct.
The scans only need to be looked at by an expert, there doesnt need to be any digging up the yard or anything. So if nothing happens, then my guess would be that it is because the scans show nothing worth investigating.
But you can rest assured, if this Birch has given the scan details to SY, they will look at it in detail to see if he is correct.
The scans only need to be looked at by an expert, there doesnt need to be any digging up the yard or anything. So if nothing happens, then my guess would be that it is because the scans show nothing worth investigating.
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What I dont get though, is why he did a ground scan of Murat's yard.
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Pedro Silva wrote:birch´s words are a bit farfetched, very unlikely to have happened, in my opinion.
Seems so Pedro.
ANOTHER HOAX
No surprise there.
It looks like Birch nicked an anti's stuff and ran with it.
How gullible some are,
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I have put this in the correct thread, as nothing to do with Kate's thread.
Another South African “Madeleine Finder” arrives in Portugal
Posted by Stevo on Dec 4th, 2009 and filed under Famous Articles. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0. You can leave a response or trackback to this entry
xxxxhttp://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/
xxxxhttp://regretsandramblings.com/2012/07/09/stephen-birch-interview-youtube/
xxxx
Have a read Rosemary, even the anti's don't believe a word of it, and thats saying something.
http://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t1943p105-let-s-play-spot-the-hoaxer
By the way this Birch has joined Haverns.
Another South African “Madeleine Finder” arrives in Portugal
Posted by Stevo on Dec 4th, 2009 and filed under Famous Articles. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0. You can leave a response or trackback to this entry
xxxxhttp://truthformadeleine.com/2009/12/another-south-african-madeleine-finder-arrives-in-portugal/
xxxxhttp://regretsandramblings.com/2012/07/09/stephen-birch-interview-youtube/
xxxx
Have a read Rosemary, even the anti's don't believe a word of it, and thats saying something.
http://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t1943p105-let-s-play-spot-the-hoaxer
By the way this Birch has joined Haverns.
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again, it proves that birch is a fake, a fraud.
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Pedro Silva wrote:again, it proves that birch is a fake, a fraud.
Exactly Pedro!
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Thanks Christobel. I must say I never ever looked at the hate sites. So frankly now that I did get onto that last link I am as confused as ever. I have no idea what half of them are on about. To me they are all freaks.
As for all this stuff in 2009 coming out of SA I am sure Birch has upset a lot of people by actually being able to follow up on their "theories" which really do not have copyright laws to protect them. Why anyone would wish to bring such media drama down upon his head I have no idea.
And I don't understand this use of the word "hoax". Why would anyone spend 40000 of his own money to perpetrate a "hoax"? That does not make any sense whatsoever.
All I can say is that it all sounds so confused I think I shall ignore the whole thing until something "realistic" happens. And by that I guess I mean a proper investigation or an official exposure of Birch as a raving lunatic.
As for all this stuff in 2009 coming out of SA I am sure Birch has upset a lot of people by actually being able to follow up on their "theories" which really do not have copyright laws to protect them. Why anyone would wish to bring such media drama down upon his head I have no idea.
And I don't understand this use of the word "hoax". Why would anyone spend 40000 of his own money to perpetrate a "hoax"? That does not make any sense whatsoever.
All I can say is that it all sounds so confused I think I shall ignore the whole thing until something "realistic" happens. And by that I guess I mean a proper investigation or an official exposure of Birch as a raving lunatic.
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Yes, my thanks as well Christabel. Answered my question from the Kate the Ambassador thread. I never go near the 'hate' sites anymore, just cant put up with the rubbish they go on with.
Rosemary, people do things for a variety of reasons. For eg, fame - notorious or not, some people seek the spotlight.
selling new technology - if he made a hit with his new technology (that is how it is described in the articles) then he could possibly make a fortune
mental health problems - living in some fantasy world where he thinks the will solve the case, or that he is the only one that can - this bloke is not the Notdoc/Docmac is he?
I agree he needs to be investigated thoroughly.
Rosemary, people do things for a variety of reasons. For eg, fame - notorious or not, some people seek the spotlight.
selling new technology - if he made a hit with his new technology (that is how it is described in the articles) then he could possibly make a fortune
mental health problems - living in some fantasy world where he thinks the will solve the case, or that he is the only one that can - this bloke is not the Notdoc/Docmac is he?
I agree he needs to be investigated thoroughly.
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dianeh wrote:Yes, my thanks as well Christabel. Answered my question from the Kate the Ambassador thread. I never go near the 'hate' sites anymore, just cant put up with the rubbish they go on with.
Rosemary, people do things for a variety of reasons. For eg, fame - notorious or not, some people seek the spotlight.
selling new technology - if he made a hit with his new technology (that is how it is described in the articles) then he could possibly make a fortune
mental health problems - living in some fantasy world where he thinks the will solve the case, or that he is the only one that can - this bloke is not the Notdoc/Docmac is he?
I agree he needs to be investigated thoroughly.
You are welcome Diane.
Notdoc/Docmac? It was the first thing I thought, and we know him well don't we?
He was well in with Stevo and the rest of the cronies, especially the liars we also know from Portugal, from our DX days. I believe it could well be him, Diane. Look how many could have helped him in Portugal.
Rosemary, We only have his word he spent any money, I'd like to see a receipt. And if Levy did that video, no more needs to be said.
Whoever he is, he's a con artist, and had to have some help from someone high up, to even go in the Murats garden and get away with it.
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If Levy is involved, then it is bogus for sure. There is money behind it somewhere, perhaps they are trying to sell it to the highest bidder.
Funny that we both thought of the Notdoc/Docmac, isnt it? The would be paediatrician who 'knew' from special unnamed sources that the McCanns murdered their child. I always thought he just wanted attention, or that he got some perverse kick out of geeing up the pitchforkers, you know sitting back laughing at them. This video certainly is getting attention.
Funny that we both thought of the Notdoc/Docmac, isnt it? The would be paediatrician who 'knew' from special unnamed sources that the McCanns murdered their child. I always thought he just wanted attention, or that he got some perverse kick out of geeing up the pitchforkers, you know sitting back laughing at them. This video certainly is getting attention.
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