Paiva and Gonc's affair

Not as sqeaky clean as he tries to make out is he?

It was Paiva who introduced Ana Sofia Bras to Gonc, inviting them both for a "special" dinner at his house, prepared by Paiva's wife, and this despite Paiva knowing very well that Ana and Gonc were both married!

So Paiva's wife is no better than he is. She knew they were both married too.
Looks like Karma to me, Paiva being found out sending fithy pic's to a 20 year old young girl.

His computer hacked?? Pull the other one, its got bells on

christabel, that´s new to me.

Pedro Silva wrote:christabel, that´s new to me.

Me too Pedro, but its true

Good God. Whatever next? What a bunch of sleaze bags.

I agree with you Sabot.

Pedro Silva wrote:I agree with you Sabot.

Yer, and they call themselves good Catholics, Pedro.

Sabot wrote:

Pedro Silva wrote:I agree with you Sabot.

Yer, and they call themselves good Catholics, Pedro.

Have you noticed Sabot, they are everything they said the McCann's were.
I'm just waiting for it to come up they are all "swingers".
After all they do all have pampas grass in the garden

christabel wrote:

Sabot wrote:

Pedro Silva wrote:I agree with you Sabot.

Yer, and they call themselves good Catholics, Pedro.

Have you noticed Sabot, they are everything they said the McCann's were.
I'm just waiting for it to come up they are all "swingers".
After all they do all have pampas grass in the garden

Pampas Grass? Really? That's it then.

And Yes, they are all of what they accused The McCanns of being. There is only one small difference. We have proof of what they are, while there is absolutely no proof of anything sleazy about The McCanns. Not even a teensy weensy hint. Odd is that.

Actually, I am appalled. And what a pity it never occurred to this dreadful bunch that all of this would come out. They might have been a bit more careful if it had.

Sabot, christabel, you´re both right.

what they have is a depraved mind.

Pedro Silva wrote:Sabot, christabel, you´re both right.

what they have is a depraved mind.

You are right there Pedro. SICK! SICK! SICK!

yes christabel, they have a very sick, deranged brains.

Sabot, so so true, that they never thought any of it came out.

They were so sure of themselves (arrogant I called it on another thread) that it seems they thought themselves immune to criticism and that their own private lives would never be examined.

The more I hear about these people, the more I am convinced that there is something very seriously wrong there. It is surely past time that the PJ did an internal review of their previous cases and their behaviour.

And it's all on record, Dianeh. Did they think that no one would dare to expose them? It is indeed stunning in it's arrogance.

Well as they are so insistent on their right to Free Speach, did it not occur to them that we have the same rights?

Sabot, good point, I agree with you.

Pedro Silva wrote:Sabot, good point, I agree with you.

It makes you wonder, Pedro. Gonc goes around Libelling all and sundry while accusing Marcos of Defamation when what Marcos said was entirely true.
Did Gonc think he had some sort of protection for his criminal misdeeds and sleazy personal life?

Yes Sabot, I agree with you. Perhaps gonc thought he was untouchable, perhaps he with his goons thought he was above the law, wrong thought morons, and the proof is that all gonc´s rotten secrets are now exposed worldwide. I wonder what more rotten secrets will be known about these morons?

Pedro Silva wrote:Yes Sabot, I agree with you. Perhaps gonc thought he was untouchable, perhaps he with his goons thought he was above the law, wrong thought morons, and the proof is that all gonc´s rotten secrets are now exposed worldwide. I wonder what more rotten secrets will be known about these morons?

I daren't think, Pedro. It gets better......sorry, it gets worse by the minute.

from these vile morons, I expect everything.

I suspect that since freedom of speech is a relatively new right in Portugal that Gonc doesnt quite understand what it means. He also seems to not understand what defamation is.

He doesnt seem to understand that defamation is different from offence. Bringing Gonc's shady past out into the open is not defamation, although he no doubt finds it offensive. Calling the McCanns murderers or that they covered up Madeleine's death, or that they were involved with her disappearance, or that the Fund was set up to defraud people of their money etc, are all examples of defamation, since these statements are not true and there is no evidence to suggest that they are true. And if Im not mistaken, most of these defaming claims have been made by various members/ former members of the PJ.

So Pedro you are probably right when you say he thought he was above the law, but I would also add that he doesnt understand the law very well at all. If he did, he would not be facing a libel court case. He could have done a good job, investigated properly and still written a best selling book. But no, he chose to go a different way and the result is a court case that he cannot hope to win. The only way he could win is if he could prove what happened to Madeleine and that it involved her parents disposing of her. He is a dead duck.

Goncalo Amaral does appear to think that he is above The Law, and who knows, he might well have been in the past. But he went one step too far with The Cipriano Case. The lack of any real evidence was mind boggling.
And then he followed up with the horrific botch up of The McCann Case, no doubt sure that his word would be accepted by The Prosecution, as it had been in the past.
Fortunately, The World at large was paying much more attention by then, and some bright sparks started digging around, and it was a forgone conclusion that dodgy dealing would be found. His great disdain for Justice was bound to be reflected in his personal life.
And if one looks at what he has gotten away with one might well wonder if he has been protected.

amaral only understands law when it suits his disgusting purposes, the same about defamation, amaral was the only one who defraud everything in which his dirty finger is or was involved. The more the world is aware of gonçalo amaral´s dirty schemes the better. He cannot prove his lies, because amaral has not a single shred of evidence to prove his crap. Amaral only understand freedom of speech, defamation when it suits his despicable purposes. The beast created by amaral, unleashed by him, has turned against his creator. amaral took a higher step than his leg could handle, gonçalo amaral crashed and burned. but his sick brain don´t understands it, his brain cannot allow it, he has no intelligence to understand it.
freedom of speech for amaral is to launch smears, lies, defamation, but when someone dísagree with amaral´s crap, when it is against him, then amaral says that his freedom of speech is being attacked with lies and smears, but we all know that everything about goncalo amaral, his dirty secrets have been discovered and exposed are true, if he don´t like to see his dirty secrets revealed, one more reason to expose them.

It's all "coming out in the wash" as the saying goes.........about bloody time too.

Divorced twice now, that's not making him a good Catholic is it?
The more we hear about his personal life, the more doubts I get about his moral standards.
Cheating on his wife doesn't show a stable man, a loving loyal husband.

I suspect that since freedom of speech is a relatively new right in Portugal that Gonc doesnt quite understand what it means. He also seems to not understand what defamation is.[...]

I agree with most of what you wrote Dianeh.
I would say it's also his arrogance and 'pride' that's making him think he stands above the law.
Let's not forget he's been a member of the PJ for many years, some people respected him, many people feared him. It's clear he's used his position as a PJ Inspector to 'solve' things in his personal life.

Hi Cath

Yes, the respect, or fear, which comes with being in the PJ, would be handy when it came to resolving personal issues. It also looks a bit like there is a boys club where they look out for each other. This, when it is extended, produces an echo chamber where they all end up agreeing with each other, and even in circumstances where they are clearly wrong. The way the PJ Officers from the initial investigating team all agreed, really does look like a boys club. They were probably very insular, being left to their own devices, so it never occurred to them that they were very very wrong in the direction they were going. The same with Gonc's book, why did they all agree with him, when there was no evidence. It is because of their boys club.

"You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. I'll help get you out of trouble if you do the same for me."

From this would follow that they effectively ran The Judicial System because no one ever questioned them. Very scarey.