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Post by Guest Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:11 pm

Official File Source.

DVD files translated into English as they come out and archived on this site. Also available are the official report files.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm


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Post by honestbroker Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:36 pm

That is invaluable, Modnrodder. Thank you.

In fact, can I suggest (to the mods) that we give this a sticky?

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Post by honestbroker Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:00 am

Two perplexing anomalies:

From Paulo Reis's rendering of Amaral's book:

Precisely, Eddie alerts to:

---- the lower part of the driver's door
---- in the boot, where the dog was biting and barking, indicating the odour was coming from inside the car

And from Martin Grime's own report:

Ten vehicles were screened in an underground multi storey car park at
Portimao. The vehicles, of which Idid not know the owner details, were
parked on an empty floor with 20-30 feet between each. The vehicle
placement video recording and management of the process was conducted
by the PJ. The EVRD was then tasked to search the area. When passing a
vehicle Inow know to be hired and in the possession of the McCann family,
the dog's behaviour changed substantially. This then produced an alert
indication at the lower part of the drivers door where the dog was biting and
barking. I recognise this behaviour as the dog indicating scent emitting from
the inside of the vehicle through the seal around the door.


This vehicle was then subjected to a full physical examination by the PJ and
no human remains were found. The CSI dog was then tasked to screen the
vehicle. An alert indication was forthcoming from the rear driver's side of the
boot area. Forensic samples were taken by the PJ and forwarded to a
forensic laboratory in the U.K.


It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'cadaver scent'
contaminant or human blood scent. No evidential or intelligence reliability can
be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating
evidence. The remainder of the vehicles were screened by the EVRD without
any interest being shown. Therefore the CSI dog was not further deployed.


So the two anomalies: Amaral has it that Eddie alerted to the boot while Grimes doesn't! And according to Grimes, he had no clue before the search which was the hire-car of the McCanns?

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Post by Tinkerbell43 Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:21 am

Blimey, how on earth can Grimes say he didnt know which vehicle was the McCanns, it had find Madeleine posters all over it for christ sake. You dont have to be a detective to know who that vehicle belonged to it stood out like a sore thumb. I cant believe he said that. If these were his powers of deduction then he leaves a lot to be desired!

He got one thing right though, the EVRD did PASS the vehicle and it would never have returned if it hadnt been called back!
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Post by vee8 Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:53 pm

Excuse me, but he is clearly contradicting himself here,

Ten vehicles were screened in an underground multi storey car park at
Portimao. The vehicles, of which Idid not know the owner details, were
parked on an empty floor with 20-30 feet between each. The vehicle
placement video recording and management of the process was conducted
by the PJ. The EVRD was then tasked to search the area. When passing a
vehicle I know know to be hired and in the possession of the McCann family,

Now which is it? Did Grimes even write this himself?
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Post by Tinkerbell43 Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:35 pm

I read it the same way as you at first, but it does actually say the dog passed a vehicle that I now know to be the McCanns. He hasn't put a space between I and now.

It threw me when I first read it.
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Post by honestbroker Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:07 am

The site gerrymccannsblog seems to have crashed. Not been able to get on it for a couple of days.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:29 am

I just managed to get on it OK. Perhaps it was just a technical error.

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Post by Cath Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:43 am

honestbroker wrote:Two perplexing anomalies:

From Paulo Reis's rendering of Amaral's book:

Precisely, Eddie alerts to:

---- the lower part of the driver's door
---- in the boot, where the dog was biting and barking, indicating the odour was coming from inside the car

And from Martin Grime's own report:

Ten vehicles were screened in an underground multi storey car park at
Portimao. The vehicles, of which Idid not know the owner details, were
parked on an empty floor with 20-30 feet between each. The vehicle
placement video recording and management of the process was conducted
by the PJ. The EVRD was then tasked to search the area. When passing a
vehicle Inow know to be hired and in the possession of the McCann family,
the dog's behaviour changed substantially. This then produced an alert
indication at the lower part of the drivers door where the dog was biting and
barking. I recognise this behaviour as the dog indicating scent emitting from
the inside of the vehicle through the seal around the door.


This vehicle was then subjected to a full physical examination by the PJ and
no human remains were found. The CSI dog was then tasked to screen the
vehicle. An alert indication was forthcoming from the rear driver's side of the
boot area. Forensic samples were taken by the PJ and forwarded to a
forensic laboratory in the U.K.


It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'cadaver scent'
contaminant or human blood scent. No evidential or intelligence reliability can
be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating
evidence. The remainder of the vehicles were screened by the EVRD without
any interest being shown. Therefore the CSI dog was not further deployed.


So the two anomalies: Amaral has it that Eddie alerted to the boot while Grimes doesn't! And according to Grimes, he had no clue before the search which was the hire-car of the McCanns?

Blimey, now I finally know how TB got that. He's made a post and a stupid explanation. Without telling it's from the book.

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Post by AlexG Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:44 am

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Post by Cath Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:13 pm

Alex, I've dropped you a PM. I'm interested because that's much easier as trying to read/translate the jpeg files on Pamalam's site.
I've seen up till now too many dubious translations on a few sites to believe anything without first checking it.

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