What happens if the Madeleine case was reopened by PJ
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What happens if the Madeleine case was reopened by PJ
Maria
I am relying on you for this answer.
I read on another forum that the McCanns could have asked the PJ to re-open the case but they didnt. Therefore, this means something bad, you know how it is, WHY DIDNT THEY etc etc.
If the case was re-opened, would the secrecy laws be reinstated? Does that mean anything new would be subject to secrecy and IF the PJ found anything, they would not have to tell the McCanns or British Police anything? WOuld it prevent private detectives from investigating the case in Portugal?
Because if this is the way it works, then it is imperative that the case is not re-opened. At the moment, at least the private detectives can do something in Portugal, and that is at least preferrable to the NOTHING that the PJ were doing.
Any insights you have is most appreciated.
I am relying on you for this answer.
I read on another forum that the McCanns could have asked the PJ to re-open the case but they didnt. Therefore, this means something bad, you know how it is, WHY DIDNT THEY etc etc.
If the case was re-opened, would the secrecy laws be reinstated? Does that mean anything new would be subject to secrecy and IF the PJ found anything, they would not have to tell the McCanns or British Police anything? WOuld it prevent private detectives from investigating the case in Portugal?
Because if this is the way it works, then it is imperative that the case is not re-opened. At the moment, at least the private detectives can do something in Portugal, and that is at least preferrable to the NOTHING that the PJ were doing.
Any insights you have is most appreciated.
dianeh- Grand Member
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Re: What happens if the Madeleine case was reopened by PJ
To the best of my knowledge that is an anti-McCann myth. The case can be re-opened at ANY time, if new evidence comes to light, and I believe some Spanish solicitor is attempting to do just that, because he feels his sighting was ignored and dismissed wrongly by the PJ. There was never any limit placed on the McCann's on which they could demand the case re-opened, the anti filth are just using this lie as another stick to beat them with.
Diane
Vee is correct. There is nothing wrong on any side so far. The reopening can be asked by anyone IF that/those person/people presents a new compelling evidence or clue.
It would always be a good thing, coming from anywhere, including the family. Only PJ can request some means of investigation, make certain searches and ask for warrants. Which means they are the only ones that can go 'all the way' if and when needed. PIs are or may be essential in unearthing evidences and clues. That's their investigation and will never be as deep and effective as PJ's. At least potentially. PJ is however free to accept or request the help of other investigators, be them the british police or even PIs, but they would never be replaced by any of them.
I don't know if judicial secrecy would be reinstated, but I would admit it would.
The argument is totally false and one other way of 'accusing' the McCanns.
It would always be a good thing, coming from anywhere, including the family. Only PJ can request some means of investigation, make certain searches and ask for warrants. Which means they are the only ones that can go 'all the way' if and when needed. PIs are or may be essential in unearthing evidences and clues. That's their investigation and will never be as deep and effective as PJ's. At least potentially. PJ is however free to accept or request the help of other investigators, be them the british police or even PIs, but they would never be replaced by any of them.
I don't know if judicial secrecy would be reinstated, but I would admit it would.
The argument is totally false and one other way of 'accusing' the McCanns.
maria- Grand Member
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Vee and Maria
I know that the claims that the McCanns could have asked for the case to be re-opened is anti propaganda. I also was of the understanding that their must be some basis for the case to be re-opened.
But what I am most concerned about is whether or not the secrecy would be imposed and Maria confirms what I feared, and that is that it would be. Of course it could only apply to the new investigation.
What I didnt know (and thank you for explaining it Maria) is that the PJ could have allowed M3 (or any other private detectives) to assist them in their search for Madeleine but chose not to. I thought it was illegal for detectives to work on an ongoing police investigation but if I understand Maria correctly, the PJ can allow the detectives to investigate aspects of the case. Why didnt they allow it. If the PJ were not going to search for a live child, why not let the detectives become involved in that part of the search at the very least. And so I guess, that also means that if the case were re-opened, then the PJ could once again prevent detectives for investigating along the new evidence lines.
You see, not only is there nothing new to warrant the case from being re-opened by the PJ (whether or not the mccanns asked for it), there is no benefit to the McCanns. There would be a benefit, if hard evidence came up, or a substantiated sighting in Portugal, and I am sure that the McCanns would then request the case opened, even if the PJ didnt open it. But if such hard evidence came up that she was alive at some point after the abduction, then it wouldnt look very good for the PJ would it.
Thanks Maria. I am so glad you post on here. It is good to have you input, I really appreciate it.
But what I am most concerned about is whether or not the secrecy would be imposed and Maria confirms what I feared, and that is that it would be. Of course it could only apply to the new investigation.
What I didnt know (and thank you for explaining it Maria) is that the PJ could have allowed M3 (or any other private detectives) to assist them in their search for Madeleine but chose not to. I thought it was illegal for detectives to work on an ongoing police investigation but if I understand Maria correctly, the PJ can allow the detectives to investigate aspects of the case. Why didnt they allow it. If the PJ were not going to search for a live child, why not let the detectives become involved in that part of the search at the very least. And so I guess, that also means that if the case were re-opened, then the PJ could once again prevent detectives for investigating along the new evidence lines.
You see, not only is there nothing new to warrant the case from being re-opened by the PJ (whether or not the mccanns asked for it), there is no benefit to the McCanns. There would be a benefit, if hard evidence came up, or a substantiated sighting in Portugal, and I am sure that the McCanns would then request the case opened, even if the PJ didnt open it. But if such hard evidence came up that she was alive at some point after the abduction, then it wouldnt look very good for the PJ would it.
Thanks Maria. I am so glad you post on here. It is good to have you input, I really appreciate it.
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