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Post by clairesy Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:16 pm

Im not implying there is a link with this sicko and Madeleine mccann but t is something that as played on my mind for god knows how long.
It was reported that von aesch shot a guy in order to silence him.He was on the run after being the prime suspect in the abduction and murder of 5 year old little Swiss girl Ylenia Lenharda.The guy he shot was in hospital,im not sure if he died.But it also appears von aesch was holidaying in Portugal at the time Madeleine was abducted.He was later found dead in a forest after killing himself...his body found near to where the belongings of the little Swiss girl were found.

Im wondering if this is the reason they cant find Madeleine or her abductor.I have a sickening feeling sometimes that the abductor is not around now and that that's why they cant find him.I wonder if they carried out any dna on his body to maybe try to establish if he had any contact with Madeleine at all.

the Portuguese cops were told of the similarities in Madeleine's abduction and that of the little Swiss girl.They also look very much alike and given that this sicko was hoiday near pdl when Madeleine went missing i think the whole thing should be looked into more.

The guy he shot and hospitalised as also made me wonder.He shot him in the same forest before killing himself.Did this guy help him???Why shoot him???Why was he there in that forest with van aesch???

What did he know that von aesch wanted him to shut up about?

He also drove a white van similar to the one seen outside the apartment at the ocean club when she disappeared.

I think there is a significant information regarding this man that points to a connection in Madeleine's abduction.

Here is a picture of him and i think there is a similarity to him and descriptions given to cops of a guy seen hanging about the apartments that night.The little blond child is 5 year old Swiss girl Ylenia Lenharda.

Urs Hans Von Aesch+ madeleine/WIKI YleniaArsES_468x333

Is this him?...................................

Urs Hans Von Aesch+ madeleine/WIKI Storyee086df9b33d295c75242e85198cb642

Or is this him??......................

Urs Hans Von Aesch+ madeleine/WIKI Suspect


remember is was dark and this guy has hair similar to that of von aesch....the white van is also imo a big factor here,plus the fact he shot a man and killed himself.Both children are blond around the same age to
when police found his body they found little Ylenia Lenharda dns on him to.His white van also contained her dna along with a mattress in the back, that he used to sleep on . Now correct me if im wrong but didn't someone say a white van was parked up near the ocean club with some odd ball in it that seamed to live in the van???

Aslo .........Witnesses have said a man matching von Aesch’s description had been seen watching Ylenia’s home and movements for at least 10 days.Same kind of suspicious behavior that witnesses have described about a man in pdl !!!

Poor little ylenias body was dug up and torn apart by wild animals...cops said if they hadnt dug her up her body probably would never have been found.

von aesch also as a history of this sort of sick thing.He once got jailed for trying extort money from a man for info on his abducted child....Von Aesch was also briefly a suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. He was thought to be close to Praia da Luz when Madeleine McCann disappeared. A white van with Spanish number plates matching the description of von Aesch's was seen parked for several days in front of the McCann's apartment. The van was not seen again after Madeleine disappeared.info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ylenia_Lenhard


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Post by clairesy Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:20 am

Another thing that strikes me odd about the little swiss girl Ylenia Lenharda death was that cops found no evidence of anything sexual being done to her. They cant find a cause of death and come to the conclusion she was poisoned.

Now given then this sicko von aesch shot a guy and then killed himself im wondering weather they kidnap these kids..drug them in the process in order to silence them and then pass them onto someone else for whatever reasons later.

Maybe little Ylenia Lenharda died from being poisoned and a row broke out between the two guys...they would have panicked and the kidnapping job would have failed. It could have resulted in the shot out and death of these two men???

Madeleine's abduction raised some questions about whether she had been drugged because the family couldn't understand how she hadn't screamed out when being taken. She seamed asleep by witnesses who say they saw her being carried off.

Its really scary when you read up on this guy.All of the details and the fact he was holidaying near PDL ta them time.A van just like his parked outside the apartments in the days running up to her abduction.And the witness descriptions that fit that of him to ,all make this a chilling resemblance to me.I hope they have truly ruled this guy out of Madeleine's abduction.

Brian ladd or Merlin once said Madeleine is with VA.

VA could be .........von aesch??
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Post by clairesy Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:48 am

Thick about it this way.
Two guys don't shoot each other for nothing.The child wasn't beaten to death or raped etc...she died of poisoning
a theorie.................

von aesch takes this little girl....he is found dead in the forest near her ruck sack that contained her clothes and his dna to.Another man is shot.Cops cant find her body until it is dug up by wild animals.

NOW.............. No sign of any abuse...no sings of her being beaten to death etc etc...no apparent caused of death was found on this child's body at all.

Her dna was found in the back of his white van.Her body apparently poisoned(the cause of death)

Did von asech take this child.....drug her to keep her asleep and quiet...........put her into the back of his van and go to this forest to meet the guy she was meant to be passed onto.On arrival he finds her dead from the drug and they both panic.

Remember this happened after Madeleine was taken.If they had taken Madeleine previously(a van like his was spotted at the OC in the days running up to her abduction and vanished when she did)...this little swiss girls death could have led cops to the whereabouts of other children.They would have been rumbled.IMO they messed up on that child's abdcution...she wasn't meant to die...and they both panicked.......... leading to a horrendous row and resulting in the one of them shooting the other and then maybe themselves.Im not even convinced this guy committed suicide.I wonder if the guy he shot and hospitalised shot him dead to shut him up and punish him for accidentally overdosing this little girl, and messing up the abduction....and then went on to shoot himself in an attempt to make it appear he was the victim of von asech.

Why was she poisoned???.to keep her quiet.to keep her asleep

Madeleine was seen asleep when she was carried off to.
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Post by clairesy Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:10 am

AND.....there's more...........Ive just read how witnesses told police that TWO men were inside the white van of von aesch's.

Also von aesch was not shot with the same gun that the other guy was shot with.One pistol was found near the body of von aesch.But the other gun was not found...the one that hospitalised the other guy!!!

I think these two could have been in this abduction together,They might have been meeting someone at the forest and on arrival got into a row over the child s death and they both got shot by who ever it was the child was going to be passed onto.

The guy was discharged from hospital but his identity is still unknown???The cops told interpol to investigate because there could be a link to Madeleine's abduction

here is a link about this

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/08/madeleine-and-ylenia-police-looks-for.html
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